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Also, I think the lights were out in my awareness for a moment, but where did the incident s of rape occur that people are talking about? Is this the Sue Dibny thing again, or did someone else deploy it more recently? Wow… out of all the posts that one hits home. Moving entire mountains that have changed with the passage of time is a hard nut to crack. But it is nice to vent about it, so I understand the frustration.

Nobody likes seeing their childhood heroes raped. You have my sympathy and I wish something more dramatic could be done. But there are plenty of books out there that do not fit this model. I was 24 or 25 when it came out and read it then. A well-written story ought to work for longtime fans as well as new readers…. Thank you for this.

And now I am an old, old woman even older than those year-old men , and I am just confused by it all. Which, yeah, I know, means to an extent the onus is on me to get caught up but…. It worked on many levels. And so we learn.

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Steve, good points. The superhero bashing is an easy target and the formulas inherent with other comics auto-bio, indy slanted, manga, et.

But it is all art, and art is subjective to the viewer. That of course, depends on a healthy market. For many people seeing their childhood heroes, or the characters that introduced them to comics, turn to the dark side is troublesome. Like I said, I have sympathy for them. But I understand that it is in others, so I give them their soapbox. As for women and what they read? The best bet, in my opinion, is to cast a wide net with a wealth of diverse comics and allow those readers to find what they need.

Because the taste in readers will also change. Nobody should talk her out of it. But it goes both ways. Kate, likewise, has to step lightly in not talking others out of what they want, as well. But one worth talking about, and I wish Kate luck in finding like-minded readers who will rally her cause for diversity. Combining action with heroism as the major elements in a story, and reaching for a wide audience lowest common denominator marketing , implies that a story will rely heavily on simple archetypes and stereotypes.

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Constantly featuring damsels in distress or creating heroines that are obviously derived from male counterparts is insulting to women who want to see female characters treated as individuals. Conversely, write a story about stereotypes that uses a formula plot, so that the story can be written with a minimal amount of effort and not force a reader to think hard — the story will probably be sexist and will certainly be predictable. Which gets me thinking about a comparison Mike Quackenbush made between comics and wrestling once.

I still think using events taken from an out of continuity novelty comic like All Star Batman is a bad starting point for commentary on the industry, aside from the need for DC to use an actual ratings system on their books to seperate that from Detective Comics. The lesbian comment was stupid and makes me wonder if he actually read the stories involved, whether it be Renee Montoya through Gotham Central to her becoming the Question or the new Batwoman.

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Either way, they were well written and well developed. I think there were some good starting points for conversation in there, but it was nothing more than an off the cuff comment. Um, why not?


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Did you have any particular heroines in mind when you wrote that statement? To borrow from the movies, many romantic comedies these days — especially the ones featuring Katherine Heigl and Jennifer Aniston is seems — feature highly stereotyped and predictables plots. These are fils that also appeal primarily to women, who, I can only assume, derive some sort of pleasure from these films that follow a predictable narrative arc.

In regards to the changing of characters, I think Darwyn is looking at it from a creators perspective. Those stories could have been just as entertaining if it was an original character in place of the Question. Stahl, go write some comics. You seem to have a good grasp of what makes a good story. Of course your preoccupation with supposed sexism and all that still bother me, but that one post where you talked about what makes for a better story was excellent.

However, I usually live to regret giving you compliments. I wonder how many people commenting in this thread have watched the video more than once. I support his opinion.. Anecdotally, under Loved New Frontier. It may force me to post again, and nobody really likes it when I post. Your industry focuses exclusively on fanboys because they always give you money no matter how shitty the product becomes, they wind with nothing but fanboys for readers. Go figure.

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It is both ignorant and condescending, and as I marked it as my own preferred story type, I take umbrage to the wording of your assumption. Yeah, Jules Verne used to argue the same points against H. Wells, but we can still read Wells without it seeming dated and silly. Mine was Spidey Super-Stories 4. I knew who Spider-Man was having watched The Electric Company , and there was a quick origin of Medusa printed on the inside front cover.

There were three stories in that comic, and even the last story, with the Beatle, did not require much knowledge to figure out. Beatle is stealing a new Rose varietal. Spider-Man stops the Beatle. When I was seduced back into comics with Amazing Spider-Man , the story included enough information for me to understand why Spider-Man was wearing a black costume, and why he was chasing an RV pulled from the Hudson River. What separates an amateur from a professional in any field besides knowledge of, and attention to, details?

Much has changed since I was obsessed with superheroes but I think what Kate says highlights what makes this time in comics special. There has never been a recent time of such variety and diversity—-and the continued possibility for new creative visions—in the comics that are available to readers today. And yet, despite a much reduced superhero marketplace, the category still dominates American comics and there is a younger generation of 20 to 30 somethings and more girls and young women than I would have ever thought who buy superhero comics and seem to like what they see. The reality is that many folks who will never read a superhero comic book—-ever—-will go to see a movie about superheroes.

Kate says that younger readers, the 20 to 30 somethings I mentioned earlier, are out there buying and reading superhero comics and I have no reason to doubt her. This internet blog communication thing is working wonders despite its tendency to generate occasional incivilities. It lets us communicate across generations and different tastes and presumptions quickly and easily and I believe this is the basis for bringing a wider variety of comics to a larger and more diverse audience.

Not necessarily. Just like not all formula fiction is inherently anti-intellectual and sexist.